From: lunarworks	Date: January 12th, 2005 10:49 pm (UTC)		(Link)

From: technocratic	Date: January 13th, 2005 03:37 pm (UTC)		(Link)

How dare you besmirch that man! He's a stateman! A statesman I tell you!

By the way you never got back to me about that swampland in Arizona.

	From: spreston	Date: January 13th, 2005 01:24 am (UTC)		(Link)

I'm not surprised, considering the best time to use any WMD's if they had any, would've been when getting attacked by the US.

	From: chronovore	Date: January 13th, 2005 09:17 am (UTC)		(Link)

Strategically, with a long-view in mind, that's not necessarily true. Despite Hussein's wickedness, he was the leader of a sovereign nation. If he'd used the WMDs and proven the USA's reason for invasion, there would be no chance of repercussions against the USA. However leaving the weapons' existence unproven could have been a source of UN censure against the USA, and may have been a way to return the region to the status quo.

Unfortunately, even /with/ the lack of existence of the WMDs, there has been insufficient recrimination from the other nations to get the USA to change its policies, let alone withdrawal from the region.

I *do* recall hearing on the radio at one point -- likely some public station, as this doesn't seem to be a ClearChannel-type message -- that if *any* country in the world had an excuse to use force pre-emptively against threat of an attack, it would have been Iraq, as it became more and more clear that the USA was bent on invasion.

From: (Anonymous)	Date: January 13th, 2005 04:10 am (UTC)		(Link)

yeah.... isnt it pathetic.
its like in 1984.... rewriting history to fit the current agenda....

	From: chronovore	Date: January 13th, 2005 09:51 am (UTC)		(Link)

I find the quote "systematically gaming the system" to be doubleplus good.

From: technocratic	Date: January 13th, 2005 03:36 pm (UTC)		(Link)

That just got snuck in there the week before the innagural. It's a Bush love fest in the run up to the 20th.

Oh and there's a creepy as hell story about how the park service is "managing" the protestors for the coronation on NPR. The protestors are getting incredibly limited access while the Bush innaugural committee has reserved space and filled it with ticketed bleachers. One of the pro-bush group leaders has a quote in the story where he says that protestors have "allied themselves with Saddam Hussein and the terrorist" and should be treated as such.

You can hear it at
http://www.npr.org/programs/morning/

Why look for WMDs in another country when the streets are filled with "terrorists" here?

	From: kateypants	Date: January 14th, 2005 06:40 am (UTC)		(Link)

the right always calls themselves on their own shit. for example:
1. revisionist history: you provided one example of many (ie: vietnam was a good idea)
2. the liberal agenda: not true but shit there really is a right one
3. the gay agenda: i might get behind that....if it exsisted.
4. welfare moms: can we say "free market that's run off of subsidies"?!

either way i think ive reached my peak of nihilism, more to come on that one.

btw, the folx at isotope fucking ruled.